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		<title>By: semiotician</title>
		<link>http://cafephilos.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/introducing-the-carnival-of-elitist-bastards/#comment-6551</link>
		<dc:creator>semiotician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love what your doing on this site...

I have a submission I sent to SEB

Thought you might like it also.

http://semiotician.wordpress.com/page/2/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love what your doing on this site&#8230;</p>
<p>I have a submission I sent to SEB</p>
<p>Thought you might like it also.</p>
<p><a href="http://semiotician.wordpress.com/page/2/" rel="nofollow">http://semiotician.wordpress.com/page/2/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Engineer-Poet</title>
		<link>http://cafephilos.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/introducing-the-carnival-of-elitist-bastards/#comment-3911</link>
		<dc:creator>Engineer-Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solution?&#160; You want &lt;i&gt;me&lt;/i&gt; to suggest a &lt;i&gt;solution?!&lt;/i&gt;&#160; &quot;Against stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain.&quot;

Or as Ashleigh Brilliant quipped, &quot;I don&#039;t have any solution, but I certainly admire the problem.&quot;&#160; I may fit right in with the Elitist Bastards, but that doesn&#039;t mean that I don&#039;t recognize my own limitations.

On the other hand, a lot of this stuff is hosted in&#8212;or perhaps I should say, is a parasite upon&#8212;the ivory towers of academia.&#160; If the public universities subjected the efforts of the &quot;literature&quot; (and especially the hyphenated-studies) camps to the rigorous analysis of science and pulled teaching duties from faculty whose product cannot withstand scrutiny without falling apart, at least the taxpayer&#039;s money would stop accelerating the rot.&#160; Perhaps entire colleges within those universities should be closed, and their faculty allowed to seek other employment.&#160; I would nominate several at my own alma mater (elitist bastard that I am).

On the other hand, I give this about the same odds as the tissue-paper dog chasing the asbestos cat through Hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solution?&nbsp; You want <i>me</i> to suggest a <i>solution?!</i>&nbsp; &#8220;Against stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or as Ashleigh Brilliant quipped, &#8220;I don&#8217;t have any solution, but I certainly admire the problem.&#8221;&nbsp; I may fit right in with the Elitist Bastards, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that I don&#8217;t recognize my own limitations.</p>
<p>On the other hand, a lot of this stuff is hosted in&mdash;or perhaps I should say, is a parasite upon&mdash;the ivory towers of academia.&nbsp; If the public universities subjected the efforts of the &#8220;literature&#8221; (and especially the hyphenated-studies) camps to the rigorous analysis of science and pulled teaching duties from faculty whose product cannot withstand scrutiny without falling apart, at least the taxpayer&#8217;s money would stop accelerating the rot.&nbsp; Perhaps entire colleges within those universities should be closed, and their faculty allowed to seek other employment.&nbsp; I would nominate several at my own alma mater (elitist bastard that I am).</p>
<p>On the other hand, I give this about the same odds as the tissue-paper dog chasing the asbestos cat through Hell.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://cafephilos.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/introducing-the-carnival-of-elitist-bastards/#comment-3899</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Engineer-Poet!  Welcome to the blog!  :)

I&#039;m saddened to say that your points are quite legitimate.  That is, I wish it was not the case that intellectuals so often succumb to fads, but I must recognize that a number of them do.

I don&#039;t think one of the solutions is to scorn intellectuals as a group, however.   On the other hand, I am not sure how to solve the problem.  Do you have any suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Engineer-Poet!  Welcome to the blog!  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m saddened to say that your points are quite legitimate.  That is, I wish it was not the case that intellectuals so often succumb to fads, but I must recognize that a number of them do.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think one of the solutions is to scorn intellectuals as a group, however.   On the other hand, I am not sure how to solve the problem.  Do you have any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: Engineer-Poet</title>
		<link>http://cafephilos.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/introducing-the-carnival-of-elitist-bastards/#comment-3895</link>
		<dc:creator>Engineer-Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Begging to differ...
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;It’s suicidal of any society to scorn its intellectual and scientific elite.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;There are reality checks on the scientific elite (creating a fairly strong meritocracy), but intellectuals can succumb to fads which would lead entire societies to suicide.&#160; Need I point out post-modernism as one recent example?&#160; (Post-modernism is also opposed to science, as so deftly demonstrated by Alan Sokal.&#160; When the &quot;intellectuals&quot; and scientists are at war, which side do you join?)

The public is right to be suspicious of things which are against their interests.&#160; The problem is that the dispassionate seekers after truth are at a disadvantage to the cunning manipulators of opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Begging to differ&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><i>It’s suicidal of any society to scorn its intellectual and scientific elite.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>There are reality checks on the scientific elite (creating a fairly strong meritocracy), but intellectuals can succumb to fads which would lead entire societies to suicide.&nbsp; Need I point out post-modernism as one recent example?&nbsp; (Post-modernism is also opposed to science, as so deftly demonstrated by Alan Sokal.&nbsp; When the &#8220;intellectuals&#8221; and scientists are at war, which side do you join?)</p>
<p>The public is right to be suspicious of things which are against their interests.&nbsp; The problem is that the dispassionate seekers after truth are at a disadvantage to the cunning manipulators of opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 06:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your kind words, Cath!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your kind words, Cath!</p>
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		<title>By: cath</title>
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		<dc:creator>cath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay! Thanks. Nice blog, too. I&#039;ve been procrastinating here a bit too much for a Monday morning tea break...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay! Thanks. Nice blog, too. I&#8217;ve been procrastinating here a bit too much for a Monday morning tea break&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cath!  Welcome to the blog!  I&#039;ve posted a couple badges with women on the Carnival of Elitist Bastards blog.  Eleanor Roosevelt and Simone de Beauvoir.  I plan on making more badges with women as time permits.  Those are some candidates you&#039;ve suggested and I will follow up on those if I can find good pics of them in the right size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cath!  Welcome to the blog!  I&#8217;ve posted a couple badges with women on the Carnival of Elitist Bastards blog.  Eleanor Roosevelt and Simone de Beauvoir.  I plan on making more badges with women as time permits.  Those are some candidates you&#8217;ve suggested and I will follow up on those if I can find good pics of them in the right size.</p>
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		<title>By: cath</title>
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		<dc:creator>cath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any chance of making any link logo badges with women ? I nominate Grace Hopper. There are some good images here: http://www.sdsc.edu/ScienceWomen/

Or you could go for Hannah Arendt, or Simone de Beauvoir, or for a real cranky controversial elitist curmudgeon, Our Germs (Germain Greer).  I think she&#039;d make a good complement to Hitchens :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any chance of making any link logo badges with women ? I nominate Grace Hopper. There are some good images here: <a href="http://www.sdsc.edu/ScienceWomen/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sdsc.edu/ScienceWomen/</a></p>
<p>Or you could go for Hannah Arendt, or Simone de Beauvoir, or for a real cranky controversial elitist curmudgeon, Our Germs (Germain Greer).  I think she&#8217;d make a good complement to Hitchens <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, George!  In some cases I think that&#039;s the whole point of charging someone with elitism -- to sidestep the issue of whether &quot;one&#039;s reality&quot; holds any water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, George!  In some cases I think that&#8217;s the whole point of charging someone with elitism &#8212; to sidestep the issue of whether &#8220;one&#8217;s reality&#8221; holds any water.</p>
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		<title>By: gawiman</title>
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		<dc:creator>gawiman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome badges!  I used the Stevenson one of course, since I live in his home town.

Apparently it&#039;s &quot;elitist&quot; to tell someone the reality they prefer doesn&#039;t hold water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome badges!  I used the Stevenson one of course, since I live in his home town.</p>
<p>Apparently it&#8217;s &#8220;elitist&#8221; to tell someone the reality they prefer doesn&#8217;t hold water.</p>
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