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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://cafephilos.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/what-would-you-tell-her/#comment-3776</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 04:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Erik!  Welcome to the blog!  :)

I think you&#039;ve offered some exceptionally good advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Erik!  Welcome to the blog!  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ve offered some exceptionally good advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>two things: 

don&#039;t attempt to provide wisdom; help those who seek it to find the wisdom in themselves

try to learn as much from the process of helping others to find their own wisdom as the seeker learns</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>two things: </p>
<p>don&#8217;t attempt to provide wisdom; help those who seek it to find the wisdom in themselves</p>
<p>try to learn as much from the process of helping others to find their own wisdom as the seeker learns</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://cafephilos.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/what-would-you-tell-her/#comment-3651</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 22:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Dana:  Thanks for tackling the question, O Brave One!  It is tough, isn&#039;t it.  But I think your answer is a good one -- especially the part about making yourself accessible.

@ Lirone: That&#039;s an excellent point about not just being there for the young.  I think your comments about the pitfalls of assuming other people are exactly like us and need exactly the same things are very helpful.  I have to dispute your notion that you aren&#039;t wise -- you strike me as very wise.

@ Usha:  We see eye to eye on &quot;listening without judging&quot;.   There are, however, too few adults who will do that for young people, in my opinion.

@ Shirhashirim:  That&#039;s a good one!  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dana:  Thanks for tackling the question, O Brave One!  It is tough, isn&#8217;t it.  But I think your answer is a good one &#8212; especially the part about making yourself accessible.</p>
<p>@ Lirone: That&#8217;s an excellent point about not just being there for the young.  I think your comments about the pitfalls of assuming other people are exactly like us and need exactly the same things are very helpful.  I have to dispute your notion that you aren&#8217;t wise &#8212; you strike me as very wise.</p>
<p>@ Usha:  We see eye to eye on &#8220;listening without judging&#8221;.   There are, however, too few adults who will do that for young people, in my opinion.</p>
<p>@ Shirhashirim:  That&#8217;s a good one!  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: shirhashirim</title>
		<link>http://cafephilos.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/what-would-you-tell-her/#comment-3641</link>
		<dc:creator>shirhashirim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 09:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Call me back when you have more time than 12 minutes.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Call me back when you have more time than 12 minutes.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: usha</title>
		<link>http://cafephilos.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/what-would-you-tell-her/#comment-3622</link>
		<dc:creator>usha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel most of the time a problem solves itself when you verbalise it or define it clearly. And most youngsters these days are very  smart that they can find the answers if only someone will help them define their problem clearly. One of the first steps in being a mentor is to be able to listen to young people without judging them or offering advice prematurely.
I think if I were in Finklethraper&#039;s  shoes I&#039;d start by opening my heart and mind to the youngsters  and listening to them without judgement and then helping them see the problem and come up with their own solution to it.
Finally I&#039;d be honest enough to say &quot;I don&#039;t know&quot; when the occasion warrants it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel most of the time a problem solves itself when you verbalise it or define it clearly. And most youngsters these days are very  smart that they can find the answers if only someone will help them define their problem clearly. One of the first steps in being a mentor is to be able to listen to young people without judging them or offering advice prematurely.<br />
I think if I were in Finklethraper&#8217;s  shoes I&#8217;d start by opening my heart and mind to the youngsters  and listening to them without judgement and then helping them see the problem and come up with their own solution to it.<br />
Finally I&#8217;d be honest enough to say &#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8221; when the occasion warrants it.</p>
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		<title>By: lirone</title>
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		<dc:creator>lirone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an interesting goal, Paul. Though I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d focus it on younger people specifically - older people sometimes need advice, younger people sometimes have a startling wisdom of their own. 

To be someone that people of all ages, in all sorts of circumstances could turn to for advice... now that would require you to explore as many circumstances as possible, trying out different approaches and being as open to what comes as possible.

I think the things we learn most from are doing the things that scare us, taking risks and making mistakes.  So if I felt she was up for some really tough advice, I&#039;d tell her to go and do all these things. It&#039;s funny how we&#039;re often so scared of things that, when we look back, have given us a huge amount of wisdom and experience.

I think there&#039;s definitely an art to giving advice, too. Listening is definitely part of it. I often find it frustrating when people give me advice that clearly reflects their experiences rather than mine. Of course our advice needs to build on our experience, but it&#039;s easy to fall into the trap of assuming that the advice that other people need is the advice we needed in different circumstances.

I think you would also need an intuition - an awareness of what people are willing to hear, and a wish to give them what they need that is (largely) pure of egotistical wishes to give advice. 

At the grand old age of 31, I should probably be applying this advice myself...  actually, thinking about it, I feel I&#039;ve lived my life in a way that has taught me a lot. Though I only secretly think I&#039;m a fount of all wisdom... would certainly never admit to thinking so! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting goal, Paul. Though I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d focus it on younger people specifically &#8211; older people sometimes need advice, younger people sometimes have a startling wisdom of their own. </p>
<p>To be someone that people of all ages, in all sorts of circumstances could turn to for advice&#8230; now that would require you to explore as many circumstances as possible, trying out different approaches and being as open to what comes as possible.</p>
<p>I think the things we learn most from are doing the things that scare us, taking risks and making mistakes.  So if I felt she was up for some really tough advice, I&#8217;d tell her to go and do all these things. It&#8217;s funny how we&#8217;re often so scared of things that, when we look back, have given us a huge amount of wisdom and experience.</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s definitely an art to giving advice, too. Listening is definitely part of it. I often find it frustrating when people give me advice that clearly reflects their experiences rather than mine. Of course our advice needs to build on our experience, but it&#8217;s easy to fall into the trap of assuming that the advice that other people need is the advice we needed in different circumstances.</p>
<p>I think you would also need an intuition &#8211; an awareness of what people are willing to hear, and a wish to give them what they need that is (largely) pure of egotistical wishes to give advice. </p>
<p>At the grand old age of 31, I should probably be applying this advice myself&#8230;  actually, thinking about it, I feel I&#8217;ve lived my life in a way that has taught me a lot. Though I only secretly think I&#8217;m a fount of all wisdom&#8230; would certainly never admit to thinking so! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dana Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 08:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see just about everybody&#039;s been intimidated by the magnitude of this question.

To be honest, so am I.

From my own experience, after you&#039;ve become a bit older and a bit wiser yourself, the next step is to be accessible.  Share that wisdom.  Make yourself available.  Don&#039;t preach - that&#039;s anathema, kids are preached at enough.  Listen, praise, challenge, and share.

I&#039;ve mentored a few teens who wanted to become writers, and I&#039;ve been floored by their intelligence.  So maybe one of the biggest things is to learn to recognize how intelligent teens are.  If they say something less than smart, it&#039;s usually pretty easy to figure out if that&#039;s coming from inexperience, confusion, or deliberately trying to get a rise out of the old fart.  You&#039;ve got to have a good sense of humor, a lot of generosity, and a fine ability to challenge their thinking without getting pedantic and falling back on the &quot;Because I said so&quot; argument.

You&#039;ve also got to admit when you&#039;re wrong, because sometimes, they&#039;re the ones who were right.  You don&#039;t know it all.  And if they see that you can admit your mistakes, learn and grow from them, they&#039;re likely to emulate you and respect you all the more.

And you must resist the urge to play the demigod.  Just because you have more life experience and information doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;re all that and a bag of potato chips.

A rule of writing applies here, as well: Show, don&#039;t tell.  Show you know your stuff, that you practice what you preach, that you are someone who&#039;s worthy of emulation.  Don&#039;t say, do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see just about everybody&#8217;s been intimidated by the magnitude of this question.</p>
<p>To be honest, so am I.</p>
<p>From my own experience, after you&#8217;ve become a bit older and a bit wiser yourself, the next step is to be accessible.  Share that wisdom.  Make yourself available.  Don&#8217;t preach &#8211; that&#8217;s anathema, kids are preached at enough.  Listen, praise, challenge, and share.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve mentored a few teens who wanted to become writers, and I&#8217;ve been floored by their intelligence.  So maybe one of the biggest things is to learn to recognize how intelligent teens are.  If they say something less than smart, it&#8217;s usually pretty easy to figure out if that&#8217;s coming from inexperience, confusion, or deliberately trying to get a rise out of the old fart.  You&#8217;ve got to have a good sense of humor, a lot of generosity, and a fine ability to challenge their thinking without getting pedantic and falling back on the &#8220;Because I said so&#8221; argument.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve also got to admit when you&#8217;re wrong, because sometimes, they&#8217;re the ones who were right.  You don&#8217;t know it all.  And if they see that you can admit your mistakes, learn and grow from them, they&#8217;re likely to emulate you and respect you all the more.</p>
<p>And you must resist the urge to play the demigod.  Just because you have more life experience and information doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re all that and a bag of potato chips.</p>
<p>A rule of writing applies here, as well: Show, don&#8217;t tell.  Show you know your stuff, that you practice what you preach, that you are someone who&#8217;s worthy of emulation.  Don&#8217;t say, do.</p>
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