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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s Wrong With Teen Nudity?</title>
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		<title>By: kms</title>
		<link>http://cafephilos.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/whats-wrong-with-teen-nudity/#comment-8655</link>
		<dc:creator>kms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have not been to a nudist resort, please visit one because until you do you cannot have an informed opinion. It does NOT take years of &quot;indoctrination&quot; to reverse the &quot;erection reflex&quot; but maybe a few hours. Cameras are prohibited in nudist resorts, so exactly how are children being &quot;endangered?&quot; How can anyone be harmed simply by someone seeing them nude or seeing others nude? It is only harmful if the parents are forcing them to be nude; but being nude at a resort is itself abusive? THAT is ridiculous. Americans&#039; illogical, paranoid fear of nudity IS the problem. Nude resorts are not arousing because it is the concealing of bodies itself that makes them sexual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have not been to a nudist resort, please visit one because until you do you cannot have an informed opinion. It does NOT take years of &#8220;indoctrination&#8221; to reverse the &#8220;erection reflex&#8221; but maybe a few hours. Cameras are prohibited in nudist resorts, so exactly how are children being &#8220;endangered?&#8221; How can anyone be harmed simply by someone seeing them nude or seeing others nude? It is only harmful if the parents are forcing them to be nude; but being nude at a resort is itself abusive? THAT is ridiculous. Americans&#8217; illogical, paranoid fear of nudity IS the problem. Nude resorts are not arousing because it is the concealing of bodies itself that makes them sexual.</p>
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		<title>By: Dario Western</title>
		<link>http://cafephilos.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/whats-wrong-with-teen-nudity/#comment-8595</link>
		<dc:creator>Dario Western</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the problem as being women and children not being assertive and aggressive enough to deal with unwanted people at nudist places.  And it is the &#039;textile&#039; society that creates these perverts in the first place.  If nudity was not treated as an abnormal, weird or criminal thing then there would be a lot less sex offenders out there than there are now.

And people can learn to restructure their mental selves so that they don&#039;t get turned on by all nudity, except in the right circumstances.

If the rest of the world did adopt a nudist or naturist mindset we would have a more balanced and harmonious world as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the problem as being women and children not being assertive and aggressive enough to deal with unwanted people at nudist places.  And it is the &#8216;textile&#8217; society that creates these perverts in the first place.  If nudity was not treated as an abnormal, weird or criminal thing then there would be a lot less sex offenders out there than there are now.</p>
<p>And people can learn to restructure their mental selves so that they don&#8217;t get turned on by all nudity, except in the right circumstances.</p>
<p>If the rest of the world did adopt a nudist or naturist mindset we would have a more balanced and harmonious world as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Sunstone</title>
		<link>http://cafephilos.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/whats-wrong-with-teen-nudity/#comment-7860</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Sunstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ TheWorldDidNotChange:  Thank you for some interesting comments!  I am unaware of any evidence -- scientific or anecdotal -- that it &quot;would take years of nudist indoctrinating to reverse&quot; a tendency to get aroused by nudity.  On the other hand, I&#039;ve known people who &lt;i&gt;thought&lt;/i&gt; they would be aroused, but whose actual experience was otherwise, once they became nudists. In general, I think Americans simply associate nudity  with sexual arousal -- in much the same way as certain other cultures do not. There is, however, no natural reason why nudity would be arousing -- otherwise, those peoples that go nude most of the time would be aroused most of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ TheWorldDidNotChange:  Thank you for some interesting comments!  I am unaware of any evidence &#8212; scientific or anecdotal &#8212; that it &#8220;would take years of nudist indoctrinating to reverse&#8221; a tendency to get aroused by nudity.  On the other hand, I&#8217;ve known people who <i>thought</i> they would be aroused, but whose actual experience was otherwise, once they became nudists. In general, I think Americans simply associate nudity  with sexual arousal &#8212; in much the same way as certain other cultures do not. There is, however, no natural reason why nudity would be arousing &#8212; otherwise, those peoples that go nude most of the time would be aroused most of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: theWorldidnotChange</title>
		<link>http://cafephilos.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/whats-wrong-with-teen-nudity/#comment-7780</link>
		<dc:creator>theWorldidnotChange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One must understand that the rest of society does not think like nudists.

A man who sees a naked woman does not think to himself &quot;i am going to get an erection&quot; , it just happens. Such a reflex would take years of nudist indoctrinating to reverse.

Everyone has the right to their opinion. Some are of the view that for men and women to view each other&#039;s bodies in a totally non-sexual manner.. defeats the purpose of us having sex organs.

So instead of just saying that everyone else is &quot;immature&quot;, people should rather seriously consider the consequences of exposing their children at public nude events like this.

Is proving &quot;nudity is not sex&quot; so important to you that you would endanger your own child, by putting him / her in a situation where nude photographs may be taken and circulated ?

This is almost as rediculous as if I were to deliberately not give my daughter condoms because I am Catholic.

Sure I am Catholic, but I also have to recognise that I am living in the real world. 

In the same way, nudists, and the owners of nudist resorts, must understand that though they may have their own opinion of nudity, most other people can&#039;t help but get aroused by nudity.


Remember just because we believe we are generally good people; it doesn&#039;t mena we don&#039;t lock our doors at night.
IT DOES NOT PAY TO BEHAVE NAIVELY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One must understand that the rest of society does not think like nudists.</p>
<p>A man who sees a naked woman does not think to himself &#8220;i am going to get an erection&#8221; , it just happens. Such a reflex would take years of nudist indoctrinating to reverse.</p>
<p>Everyone has the right to their opinion. Some are of the view that for men and women to view each other&#8217;s bodies in a totally non-sexual manner.. defeats the purpose of us having sex organs.</p>
<p>So instead of just saying that everyone else is &#8220;immature&#8221;, people should rather seriously consider the consequences of exposing their children at public nude events like this.</p>
<p>Is proving &#8220;nudity is not sex&#8221; so important to you that you would endanger your own child, by putting him / her in a situation where nude photographs may be taken and circulated ?</p>
<p>This is almost as rediculous as if I were to deliberately not give my daughter condoms because I am Catholic.</p>
<p>Sure I am Catholic, but I also have to recognise that I am living in the real world. </p>
<p>In the same way, nudists, and the owners of nudist resorts, must understand that though they may have their own opinion of nudity, most other people can&#8217;t help but get aroused by nudity.</p>
<p>Remember just because we believe we are generally good people; it doesn&#8217;t mena we don&#8217;t lock our doors at night.<br />
IT DOES NOT PAY TO BEHAVE NAIVELY.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://cafephilos.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/whats-wrong-with-teen-nudity/#comment-5653</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Tate:  There does seem to be a strain of asceticism in the Christian tradition especially.  I&#039;m not entirely sure how much influence it has on American attitudes towards nudity, though.  I suspect it has some.

@ Jules: I&#039;ve had very similar experiences to yours at nude resorts.  It seems to me there is markedly less lewd behavior at those resorts than there is in society at large.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tate:  There does seem to be a strain of asceticism in the Christian tradition especially.  I&#8217;m not entirely sure how much influence it has on American attitudes towards nudity, though.  I suspect it has some.</p>
<p>@ Jules: I&#8217;ve had very similar experiences to yours at nude resorts.  It seems to me there is markedly less lewd behavior at those resorts than there is in society at large.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tate, the American view towards nudity is not the fault of the Judeo-Christian religions per se. The bible or &#039;God&#039; never forbids non-sexual public nudity. It is a distorded belief that nudity might lead to lust, and that lust is a sin, therefore nudity must be wrong. It is as ridiculous as saying that eating might lead to gluttony, and gluttony is a sin, therefore eating must be wrong.

Why society thinks that nudity is more likely to incite lust in people than clothing is beyond me as, in my opinion, most people look more attractive with clothes on than clothes off.

And the notion that people, younger people more specifically, are more likely to be victimized by sexual predators at a nude beach/resort is based on assumptions rather than fact. Statistics show that most sexual abuses are done by family members or acquaintances. Also, there are other places where children are far more vulnerable to predators, such as school, where kids are often alone with teachers. I have seen many news articles about teachers being charged with some offence related to pedophilia.

The nude beach I frequent is a public beach with no gates, everyone is welcome, and nudity is optional. What I see there is a strong sense of fellowship and community where people look out for one another. If anyone is being offensive, they are quickly removed from the beach. Sexual activity or masturbation is forbidden there, as well as taking pictures of others, so children or teens are not at risk (at least not a high risk) of being subjected to something they shouldn&#039;t be.

I&#039;ve personally seen more lewd conduct happening in places were people are supposed to be clothed rather than the nude beach (including a man masturbating in his car in front of an all girls private school during the afternoon hours when children were heading out).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tate, the American view towards nudity is not the fault of the Judeo-Christian religions per se. The bible or &#8216;God&#8217; never forbids non-sexual public nudity. It is a distorded belief that nudity might lead to lust, and that lust is a sin, therefore nudity must be wrong. It is as ridiculous as saying that eating might lead to gluttony, and gluttony is a sin, therefore eating must be wrong.</p>
<p>Why society thinks that nudity is more likely to incite lust in people than clothing is beyond me as, in my opinion, most people look more attractive with clothes on than clothes off.</p>
<p>And the notion that people, younger people more specifically, are more likely to be victimized by sexual predators at a nude beach/resort is based on assumptions rather than fact. Statistics show that most sexual abuses are done by family members or acquaintances. Also, there are other places where children are far more vulnerable to predators, such as school, where kids are often alone with teachers. I have seen many news articles about teachers being charged with some offence related to pedophilia.</p>
<p>The nude beach I frequent is a public beach with no gates, everyone is welcome, and nudity is optional. What I see there is a strong sense of fellowship and community where people look out for one another. If anyone is being offensive, they are quickly removed from the beach. Sexual activity or masturbation is forbidden there, as well as taking pictures of others, so children or teens are not at risk (at least not a high risk) of being subjected to something they shouldn&#8217;t be.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve personally seen more lewd conduct happening in places were people are supposed to be clothed rather than the nude beach (including a man masturbating in his car in front of an all girls private school during the afternoon hours when children were heading out).</p>
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		<title>By: Tate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People need to remember that the point of view towards nudity in America come from Judeo-christian beliefs. Which not everyone believes in or submits to but the &quot;moral&quot; majority expect them to live there lives by a religion that is not their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People need to remember that the point of view towards nudity in America come from Judeo-christian beliefs. Which not everyone believes in or submits to but the &#8220;moral&#8221; majority expect them to live there lives by a religion that is not their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gardenqueen!  Welcome to the blog!  :)

I think it&#039;s unfortunate the people at the resort did not do a better job of policing their resort.  It seems to me they should have been on the look out for predators.  But I don&#039;t see the existence of predators as a strong reason to ban kids from nudist resorts.  After all, we don&#039;t ban kids from churches just because some priests are predators.  Instead, we try to uncover the predators and get them out of the churches.  I think the same should be done at resorts.

Thank you for an interesting comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gardenqueen!  Welcome to the blog!  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s unfortunate the people at the resort did not do a better job of policing their resort.  It seems to me they should have been on the look out for predators.  But I don&#8217;t see the existence of predators as a strong reason to ban kids from nudist resorts.  After all, we don&#8217;t ban kids from churches just because some priests are predators.  Instead, we try to uncover the predators and get them out of the churches.  I think the same should be done at resorts.</p>
<p>Thank you for an interesting comment!</p>
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		<title>By: gardenqueen</title>
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		<dc:creator>gardenqueen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kids in that setting are vulnerable to predators.  When I was a teen I worked at one of the little photo huts.  Boring as that was, we often looked at the pictures.  One perv would bring in photos of kids playing vollyball at a nudist resort.  And he did it regularly.  No matter what the intentions of most of the participants, one creepy guy can ruin them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids in that setting are vulnerable to predators.  When I was a teen I worked at one of the little photo huts.  Boring as that was, we often looked at the pictures.  One perv would bring in photos of kids playing vollyball at a nudist resort.  And he did it regularly.  No matter what the intentions of most of the participants, one creepy guy can ruin them.</p>
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		<title>By: David - the nudist</title>
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		<dc:creator>David - the nudist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention the benefits to being nude versus wearing clothes.  For one, save money by not having to buy new clothes or doing much in the way of laundry.  Also, Vitamin D comes from the sun...or is it Vitamin A...well, one of them comes from the sun.  Anyway, nude people with all-over tans from the sun (in moderation, of course) get a good source of it, which adds to the health benefit.  Let&#039;s not forget that clothes restrict certain body parts from doing most of their natural functions.  And, those of us who go to the beach must hate getting sand stuck in their swimsuits.  How many of us complain about that?  Then, there&#039;s the bacteria that also gets stuck within the fabric.  This is what causes those uncomfortable rashes some people get when they go to the beach.  And, small sea animals that get caught within the fabric tend to bite a swimmer.  Just some points to consider before you say &quot;it&#039;s not right to be naked&quot;.  If, after reading my comments you still think naked is not good, then don&#039;t complain next time you get a rash or bitten by something in the water.  Because then, you&#039;ll have no one to blame but yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention the benefits to being nude versus wearing clothes.  For one, save money by not having to buy new clothes or doing much in the way of laundry.  Also, Vitamin D comes from the sun&#8230;or is it Vitamin A&#8230;well, one of them comes from the sun.  Anyway, nude people with all-over tans from the sun (in moderation, of course) get a good source of it, which adds to the health benefit.  Let&#8217;s not forget that clothes restrict certain body parts from doing most of their natural functions.  And, those of us who go to the beach must hate getting sand stuck in their swimsuits.  How many of us complain about that?  Then, there&#8217;s the bacteria that also gets stuck within the fabric.  This is what causes those uncomfortable rashes some people get when they go to the beach.  And, small sea animals that get caught within the fabric tend to bite a swimmer.  Just some points to consider before you say &#8220;it&#8217;s not right to be naked&#8221;.  If, after reading my comments you still think naked is not good, then don&#8217;t complain next time you get a rash or bitten by something in the water.  Because then, you&#8217;ll have no one to blame but yourself.</p>
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