Saying Adam and Eve Aren’t Real Might Get You Fired
September 26, 2007
Until last Thursday, Steve Bitterman was an instructor in Western Civilization at the Red Oak campus of Southwestern Community College in Iowa. It was on Thursday, according to Bitterman, that Linda Wild, the College’s vice president of instruction, called him on the phone to fire him.
His offense?
He told his students the story of Adam and Eve was not to be taken literally.
From Inside Higher Education:
This fall, [Bitterman was] teaching Western civilization at Southwestern’s Red Oak campus, and his lectures [were] broadcast to students at the Osceola campus, with a live hook-up so he [could] see students. Much of early Western civilization focuses on the myths and beliefs of ancient peoples. Gilgamesh was no problem for students, Bitterman said. But when he got to the Bible on Tuesday, a student walked out of the Osceola section when, Bitterman said, when he wouldn’t agree with her that the story of the Garden of Eden was historically true. Several other students appeared disturbed by the incident, he said. From their questions and statements, he believes that they are evangelical Christians.
Furthermore, according to the DesMoines Register, in a conversation with a student after Tuesday’s class, Bitterman called the myth of Adam and Eve a “fairy tale”. He was then told some of “the students had threatened to see an attorney.”
Bitterman says that, when Wild called him to fire him Thursday, she told him, “several of the students and the parents had threatened an unspecified lawsuit”, and that “the parents said that I was there to teach history and not religion and that she agreed.”
Meanwhile the Community College is being vague about why it fired Bitterman:
Sarah Smith, director of the school’s Red Oak campus, declined to comment Friday on Bitterman’s employment status. The school’s president, Barbara Crittenden, said Bitterman taught one course at Southwest. She would not comment, however, on his claim that he was fired over the Bible reference, saying it was a personnel issue.
“I can assure you that college understands our employees’ free speech rights,” she said. “There was no action taken that violated the First Amendment.”
And Linda Wild is responding neither to emails nor phone calls.
Bitterman himself is unrepentant:
“A few of the students thought I was knocking their religion by not promoting it,” he said. “They were upset that I didn’t say that the Bible was literally true.” Bitterman said that he treats the Bible as a historically significant, important work, but that he does not accord it status beyond that. “That really seemed to come as a shock to some of them,” he said.
And:
“I’m just a little bit shocked myself that a college in good standing would back up students who insist that people who have been through college and have a master’s degree, a couple actually, have to teach that there were such things as talking snakes or lose their job,” Bitterman said.
So who to believe? At this point, it’s just a “he said, she said” situation, but the College seems somewhat cagey in how it’s responding, which gives a bit more creditability to Bitterman’s side of the story.
At any rate, there can be no doubt evangelical and fundamentalist Christians these days often act aggressively to quash views that contradict their cherished belief in the literal truth of the Bible. If Bitterman’s story is true, it wouldn’t be too far out compared to other things we’ve been hearing about the extreme Religious Right. Consider this quote from Gary North, the Dominionist son-in-law of R.J. Rushdoony:
“We must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God.”
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September 26, 2007 at 10:43 AM
He sounds incredibly scary, the guy at the end.
Have you ever read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn? It’s interesting because Ishmael, the wise gorilla describes the Adam & Eve story not as a fairy-tale or literal truth, but as something else altogether.
A way for the nomadic people to describe the agriculturists who were taking over the fertile crescent.
In a way it is kinda odd that western civilizations have embraced this origin story that shows man as selfish, disobedient and greedy, so arrogant he brings his own people misery. All because he had to take the one thing he is told he can not have.
Cain and Abel, Cain is the farmer and Abel is the shepherd, and Cain kills his brother. At that time, when the valley was being ’settled’, driving the nomads farther and farther from to the edges of a place where there used to be enough for everyone, this was a bit of political commentary; a warning to avoid those with ‘the mark of Cain’ (the pale face?) because those people were greedy and murderous, taking the land and killing their brothers for not being like them.
Important to note that in this story, God favors the shepherd and rejects the farmer. The farmer is the base of western civilization… our society, the takers.
Wonder what those kids would think if they thought they were defending the integrity of these summations.
September 26, 2007 at 10:55 AM
This is yet another sign of why we need to be able to openly discuss religion without fear of consequence. I imagine that had the fired instructor told a story from the Quran and labeled it a fairy tale no one would have complained. And he likely would still have his job. Which shows why this is just BullS***!
After getting more involved with atheism over the last few years I can now understand why militant atheists exists. Stories like these are just so incredibly frustrating.
September 28, 2007 at 3:46 AM
Webs said it all for me!
September 20, 2008 at 4:39 AM
In Muntaka Upanishad of Hindu philosophy chapter third
describes a symbolic story of two birds. One is adma
(soul) and another is jeev(life). Both are sitting in a fig
(ficus) (pippala) tree. Jeev eats the fruit of fig tree
(Pippala) and adma(soul) is looking at her without any
influence.. This story is told to explain even though
the life (living being) is doing the worldly things
(including sex) it will not affect the soul inside.
The interesting thing in this story is comparison of
the Adam and Eve of Bible with this. The following
points are coincide. Adam and adma. Eve and jeev.
pipple and bible. fig is fig (not changed). forbidden
fruit is forbidden fruit (not changed).
Upanishads are 5000 years old. Bible is 2000 years
old. Author Pippala (rishi) (hermit) was living 2500
years ago. Jesus 2000 years. Is it possible that this
story has taken this new shape in 3000 years?
Readers can do research on this subject.
refer / search Deivathin kural written
by H.H. Chandrasekarendra Saraswathi swamiji of
Kanchi Kamakoti
peetam. visit http://www.kamakoti.org or read
muntaka upanishad in http://www.ashokha.co.cc
or visit http:www.wikipedia.org and read upanishads.
If we take the adma (adam) and jeev (eve) as two birds in a symbolic story
then there will not be any doubts in their existence as asked by so many.
But if we take them as two human beings so many questions will arise
as in http://www.answers.com.
February 17, 2009 at 11:47 PM
when a truth is told we have to accept it with open mind. in the above case one must not approach with emotions or any attachment towards any routine habits. religions are only routine habits that are taught by parents. as ashokha is telling in this para above the adam is adma (soul) and eve is jeev (life) and it is symbolic story of two birds in a fig tree all our doubts will be cleared. it is not necessary for us to take the adam and eve as the two first humna beings and then doubting our own stories. in answers.com so many questions are asked. one is adam and eve’s children are brothers and sisters. then how the human race comes. another website says some remaining of two skeleton in some cave and doubt its existency.
these are all unnecessary doubts. keep them as adma (soul) and jeev (life) as sanscrit explains them in muntaka upanishad and in other upanishads and the forbidden fruit is that of the fig (ficus religiosa) as mentioned in that upanishad. all doubts and anger will be disappeared. what Steve Bitterman told is 100% correct. he may read some of these sanscrit sayings and telling this to children.. let the children know the history without any prejudice.
February 18, 2009 at 4:00 AM
Only 100 years back two disciples approaches a guru (teacher).
They are from two places only 100 kilometers away from each other in Tamilnadu of India. He teaches that there is no God and everything is only soul. To respect the soul he instructs to pray before a mirror. The mirror will reflect the person in front of it which emphasize that everyone must pray himself. One disciple is from Muslim community and another is from Hindu community. After some years both went to their places and teach the philosophy of mirror. Both are wearing white clothes, live a very simple life, feed the poor, and kind to mankind. But as these two teachers are from two separate religions there are certain small influences of their major religion making these two into two separate religions. Most of the people do not know that the origin of these two religions are from one. If this is the stage of 100 years then what about the story told 5000 years back that adma (soul)and jeev(life) are sitting in a fig tree which is forbidden by God can be changed into a new one which cannot be identified with the origin itself. The author of this upanishad is Pippala. He gets this name as he is eating only the leaves of the fig (piple) (ficus religiosa). Adam has become adma. Jeev has become eve. Piple has become bible. Pippala is 5000 years old. Christ 2000 years old. During the period of 3000 years this story has taken a new shape. No doubt about that. Upanishads are 10008. Each upanishad contains 100 stanzas in average. That means there are more than 1000000 stanzas. One among them is this symbolic story of adma and jeev which is only four lines. This story is told to explain that even though the adma (soul) is inside the body it will not affected by the actions (including sex) done by the jeev (life). But this small stanza has grown into two major philosophies means that time can do anything. For detailed reading go to the pages “bible and piple” and “the religions” in http://www/ashokha.co.cc.
February 18, 2009 at 4:14 AM
some more points
kabilaranya california
(forest of the rishi kabila)
kabila killed the horse horse island is there
in an island
kabila burnt the horse ash island is there
in another island.
another example
hindu religions main god in mexico during
is shiva ..his another name rio de genero
sambo the main song is
sambo shiva sambo
in egypt the main pyramid is for madan kaman
he was killed by the neighbouring country king for his sex atrocities.
lord shiva has killed the manmathan kaman for his sex atrocities.
February 18, 2009 at 4:48 AM
some more points
kabilaranya california
(forest of the rishi kabila)
kabila killed the horse in an island
horse island is there
kabila burnt the horse in another island.
ash island is there
another example
hindu religions main god is shiva ..his another name is sambo
in mexico during rio de genero festival
the main song is sambo shiva sambo
in egypt the main pyramid is for madan kaman
he was killed by the neighbouring country king for his sex atrocities.
lord shiva has killed the manmathan kaman for his sex atrocities.
February 18, 2009 at 4:52 AM
Steve Bitterman is correct